Meeting MinutesESTERO DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE
Public Meeting
April 11, 2007
5:00 P.M.
The Estero Recreation Center
9200 Corkscrew Palms Blvd.
Meeting Time:
5:00 P.M.
Members in Attendance: Tom O’Dea ,
Gordon Lyons, Nancy Cohen,
Al O’Donnell, Jim Wallace, Gerald Simons,
Joe McHarris, Bill Prysi
Chaired By:
Tom O’Dea
Minutes By:
Ramona Thomas
Meeting called to order.
Approval of the minutes of the March 14th meeting was called for. A motion to
approve the minutes was made, seconded and carried unanimously. Minutes were
approved with no changes.
Presentation by Tom Schneider
Tom Schneider presented Hyatt Place, a 5-story, 108 room hotel located on 3.5
acres on US41 north of Coconut Road at the Coconut Point Mall.
Comments included:
- EDRC was to review all out parcels of the Coconut Point Mall.
- The hotel looks modern and out of place with Coconut Point.
- The shed looking roofs are out of character with the building
design.
- The portico share design looks like a shed roof, more modern than
Mediterranean.
- Recommend putting columns instead of posts to hold up the portico
share, possibly timber columns.
- Like the towers, did good job breaking up the buildings.
- Some Architects liked the contrast of the shed roofs.
- Present prospectus with landscaping to include adequate buffering
of the portico.
Tom Schneider presented preliminary plans for Wachovia Bank located north of
the Hyatt on US41 at the Coconut Point Mall. Landscape plan is not
available yet.
Comments included:
- Concerns about the drive through which takes up a lot of the land, will
need lots of landscaping to buffer.
- The colors of the building should be closer in value.
- Concerns about the ATM not being located on the building and being
in the parking lot, make sure the ATM is on the building.
Tom Schneider presented preliminary plans for The Diamond District located on
US41 north of the mall entrance and the lake, which has not been approved by
their review board.
Comments included:
- Concerns about the signage, located on preliminary plans.
Tom Schneider and Theresa Artuso of Hole Montes presented landscaping plans
to address concerns about the buffering for the backs of the buildings along Via
Coconut Point. The plans include approximately 35 additional trees,
consisting of slash pines, cabbage palms and Palatka hollies that have been
planted and some potential shrub areas.
Comments included:
- No under planting, recommend adding green buttonwood 3-10 gallon
adjacent to the building.
- Paint the backside of the superstructures that are visible above
the flat roofs. These could be faux painted as tile roofs with a wall below,
and the walls could have painted columns with shadows to give it some
perceived depth.
- There is a blank area on plans with no landscaping. Tom Schneider
will get with Jim Wallace and Gordon Lyons within 2-weeks about additional
plantings in the flow away.
Tom Schneider confirmed he will get the following items to the EDRC for
review:
- Hyatt prospectus view, with the detail of the posts and landscaping for
buffer.
- Hips of roofs on Hyatt.
- Landscape plans for Wachovia Bank and details on the ATM.
Location: Coconut Trace
across from Coconut Point Mall on
US41
Fee:
Paid
Presented by:
Scott Beauchesne, Hole Montes
Discussion:
Scott Beauchesne and Jim Kosluchar from Hole Montes, Brad Guarino from J.E.D. of
Southwest Florida, Inc., and Stewart Hempel from Mayse & Assocates presented
preliminary plans for Spring Hill Suites by Mariott, a 4 story, 150 room hotel
located at Coconut Crossing.
Comments included:
- Early schematic design looks good, lacking detail on the towers.
- The bandings are chunky and with the 220 ft length the 3
horizontal color bands accents the length of the building. Recommend a
vertical color variation to break it down.
- The columns on the portico are massive and not working with the
building design.
- Eave of the overhang on towers are too wide and where the building
bumps out should be carried to roof.
- The ends should articulate same design as the building, the
railings and portico share should be better integrated with color and design
of the building.
- The proposed glass in the portico, the concern is the glass would
change the overall look of the portico in relation to the building.
The landscape plan includes predominately native plants with a cluster of
cabbage palms at the corners of the building. The detention area buffer
has black olive trees and cabbage palms.
Comments included:
- Recommend using Washingtonian palms at the corners of the building
instead of cabbage palms or increase the height of the sables.
- Estero overlay on internal landscaping consists of shrubs and
ground cover only, no sod on internal land of the parcel.
- With parking area islands, canopy trees require 20 feet width of
islands, cannot use as canopy trees, only general landscaping.
- Use tall Washingtonian palms instead of sable palms, increase
number to 5 instead of 3, and use 12 foot clear trunk on royal palms.
Jerry Masters, resident from
Coconut Shores had
concerns about the buffer from
Marsh Landing of the
existing trees in the preserve, the trees are sparse and would provide little
buffering.
EDRC recommended adding 7 – 9 tall sable palms for additional buffer from Marsh
Landing.
Scott Beauchese and his team will come back to the next meeting with the
recommended changes and a new rendering for the committee’s review.
Location:
Coconut Trace between US41 and Lynden Drive
Fee:
Paid
Presented by:
Barry E Jones from Dyer, Riddle, Mills & Precourt, Inc. and Dan Maxwell from 361
Group out of Texas
Discussion:
Barry Jones and Dan Maxwell presented preliminary plans for
Panda Express, a
26,000 sq. ft. building with retail on the first floor and offices above,
located in Coconut Trace between US41 and Lynden Drive. The first tenant,
Panda Express has 1 floor with the rest of the building having 2 floors.
Comments included:
- Recommend changing flat roof line to break down into more elevated
sections.
- Stairs to second floor are not covered, may have to be covered.
- The glazing appears to be sitting on the ground; all the front
doors have no canopy or roof overhang.
- The low portion of the building bangs into the tall building with
no transition.
- Recommend using color variations to break up the length of the
building.
- Concerned about buffer along US41, embellish buffer to incorporate
height of building, possibly straightening the sidewalk and adding
Washingtonian palms in the islands.
Barry Jones and his team will come back for next month’s meeting with the
recommended changes for review by the EDRC.
Old Business:
The EDRC is concerned about the Walgreens sign, it is not in accordance with
Estero signage requirements and was not brought back to the EDRC for review.
Tom O’Dea will write a letter to the county informing them of the unanimous
request of the EDRC regarding the concerns of the Walgreens sign not being in
compliance with the signage requirements and not coming before the committee for
review. A copy of the letter will be sent to the representative of Walgreens and
the developer of the plaza.
The Stoneys sign on Corkscrew and (Stoneybrook) Ben Hill Griffin may not be
permitted. Gordon Lyons wrote a follow up letter to the county about the
sign.
Meeting adjourned.
Next Meeting:
Next EDRC Meeting will be held on Wednesday, May 9, 2007 at the Estero Park
Community Center.
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