June 11, 2008
The Estero Recreation Center
9200 Corkscrew Palms Blvd.
Members in Attendance: Tom
O’Dea, Gordon Lyons, Bob Melzer,
Bill Prysi, Gerald Simons
Nancy Cohen, Joseph McHarris,
Meeting called to order by Tom O’Dea at 5:00 PM.
Tom O’Dea introduced Norma Reynolds who will be taking minutes of the
He reported that he has met with Mary Zetel of Lee County to discuss signage
codes. She has agreed that her office will try to enforce the decisions and
recommendations made by the EDRC.
Gordon Lyons made a motion to approve the minutes as written of the May 15th
meeting. Motion seconded by Bill Prysi. Approved unanimously.
Corner of Williams and Three Oaks
Jerald Owen, Jeffrey Moore, Ahmad Kareh
Ahmad Kareh, civil engineer for the project, described the project as a 10
acre, 13 buildings of which 12 are one story, the other is 2 stories. They
are using 74,100 of the 100,000 square footage which is 75% of the allowance.
Access to both Three Oaks and Williams are indicated on the plans.
Jerald Owen gave an overview of the project - traditional Mediterranean
character with a Gateway Tower, a lake (retention pond) with a fountain for
water aeration, 13 buildings which have a total of 95,769 SF floor area; 85,300
SF which is leaseable.
Need variation in color, window types and window sizes
Rooflines are too linear
Provide more articulation to break up repetitive appearance
Increase the overhangs from 2 feet to 3 feet
Need to articulate the rears of all buildings fronting Three Oaks
Due to inability of landscaping sides, roof massing needs to be addressed
Committee wants to see drawings reflecting these changes -
must include color chips, elevation at rear of building along Three
Oaks, dumpster enclosure detail including the gates
Landscape design presented by Jeff Moore. He listed the
type, number and location of plants to be used.
Site perimeter walls and dumpster enclosure should match architecture -
drawings needed at the next presentation
Need more variation in landscape layout – too repetitious as presented
- Terminal Islands and islands with “canopy”
trees require 18 foot width
Presentation indicated plantings in excess of code.
However, drawings did not illustrate any quantities to support
commitment. More detailed drawing
Other comments and concerns:
Sidewalks need more/better linkage across driveways
Bicycle racks will be located adjacent to each building
Character of the lake should not be a rectangle – more of a free form
Tower lighting needs to be shown
Standard signage on each building – names of tenants, only back lit letters
There will be no lights in the parking lots
Coconut Crossing on US 41
Al Lopez, Mark Hartley
Site Plan: Presentation of drawings by Al Lopez – pointed
out the location of the building on the lot, location of the dumpsters,
direction of the traffic
- Location of building
– others in that development are on the front of the site – building
needs to be adjacent to US 41 or make
other modifications to site and architecture that will mitigate not placing
the building adjacent to US 41
- Need pedestrian access from US 41 sidewalk to the
Mark Hartley explained the drawings pointing out the entrance tower, the
ladder on the back of the building, the need for roof space for equipment.
- Section 33 of LDC requires a sloped roof on buildings
under 5,000 square feet
- Need to use
clay tiles on the roof
- Signage doesn’t meet code
- Think about hiding the ladder with landscaping
Landscape Plans: Drawings explained
- Trees need to be a minimum of 12 feet high, 4 inches
in diameter, 45 gallon
- Detention area needs to be planted with Sparta Grass
- Not recommended to use only
trees as buffer on US 41 – intersperse with palms and hardwoods
Jason was here to address concerns from the May meeting
presentation. The bank intends to
comply with all the suggestions.
- Detention area not required – bank to connect to site
storm pipe system
- Tree size will meet requirements of 12 feet /45 gallon
- Roof line will be minimized by the planting of 7 palm
trees of varying heights
- Dumpsters are not necessary – the trash receptacle
must be completely enclosed and have a gate
- Signage has been revised – new proposal submitted –
must include address for the fire department – suggest the base be extended
beyond the sign by 1 foot each side –
should have identical signage on both sides – promotional signage removed
from the site –
Tom O’Dea made a motion, seconded by Gordon Lyons to send a
DO with the stipulation that the sign code be met.
Michael Spencer presented the new proposed signage.
Wildcat Run members want a low key sign. No need for a large sign since
the development is sold out. They
plan to remove 3 existing signs and replace with 2. Color charts and a design of
the logo to be used were presented.
- Approved the colors and the logo.
- Code does not allow 4 foot high base although to make
up for the grade of the land it may be permitted – alternate suggestions
- Plant material needed for the base of the sign near
Bill Prysi made a motion to approve and send a DO as long
as the plant material was addressed.
Bob Melzer seconded. Passed
Meeting adjourned at 6:58 PM.
Next Meeting: Wednesday, July 9, 2008 5:00 PM at the Estero