Meeting MinutesESTERO DESIGN
REVIEW COMMITTEE
March 8, 2006
5:00 P.M.
The Rapallo Clubhouse
Meeting Time: 5:00 P.M.
Members in Attendance: Gordon Lyons, Al O’Donnell, Jim Wallace, Tom
O’Dea, Wayne Robinson, Joe McHarris, Nancy Cohen
Members Absent: Bill Prysi
Minutes By: Terri Melna
Meeting called to order.
Approval of the minutes of the February 8th meeting were called for. A
motion to approve the minutes was made, seconded and carried unanimously.
Minutes were approved with no changes.
Fee: Not Paid
Presentation by: Richard Hernandez, Progressive Development Group, Inc.
Discussion:
Site will have an On The Run and Exxon Mobile station. This is a portion
of the Camargo Planned Development consisting of 4100 SF convenience store
with car wash and 6 fueling islands for a total of 12 fueling positions.
Site is located 100’ from northwest corner of Williams Rd. & US 41. By
Special Exception, they are allowed 16 fueling positions, but will only have
12. Will have a barrel type roof. Signs are back channel lit. A discussion
about the monument sign ensued as to whether this sign met Code. 25% of the
sign must be architectural. This sign appears to be almost square. Monument
signs must have greater width than height. A concern was raised that this
sign is much larger than their competitors’. Estero is looking for monument
signs that are more rectangular. A suggestion was made that perhaps the base
could be extended out. This sign has a 42” base and Code states height of
base must not exceed 24” above ground. Applicant can request Variance from
the County if they so desire. Sign should include address. Applicant should
check Chapter 30 of the LDC. Applicant agreed to look at improving the sign.
Sign will have landscaping around it including palms and ground cover.
Committee made a suggestion that the canopy over the 12 islands be broken up
in some manner, perhaps by adding peaks. The roof line is too long.
Suggestion was made to add designs to the trash enclosure doors – 4 doors is
long. Suggestion was made to add a 16” column in the middle of the enclosure
and then have 2 doors. Columns in front either need to be beefed up
(Applicant indicated hard to do this as Cashiers must be able to view the
fueling stations) or lessen the top medallion areas. These should be
proportional and in scale. Add a dormer to the back. Lighting under canopy
will be recessed into deck, flush-mounted with flat lens lighting. Wayne
Robinson did the landscaping and indicated he uses royals liberally on the
site. Used sabals along the rear of the building and car wash. Front corners
have fan and foxtail palms. Suggestion was made and agreed to by Applicant
to soften the dumpster area with landscaping. A concern was raised about the
venting pipes of the underground tanks and the location of these. Applicant
agreed to look at this issue. Applicant agreed to return next month with
their changes. Committee will send letter via email.
Applicant:
Coconut Crossing DRG
(Tagamar @ Coconut Crossing & CVS/Retail & Coconut Crossing
Fee: Not Paid
Presentation by: Tom McLean, Hole Montes & Brad Guarino, JED
Discussion:
Since Joe McHarris worked on this project, he excused himself from
reviewing. The design review guidelines were sent to the Committee members
who were impressed by them. Would like to post them on the Estero website
for others to see. Applicant is trying to create a life style center with
this project. The individual users will come to the EDRC when they apply for
their development orders. The site has several pedestrian accessways. Site
located at Coconut Rd. and US 41 across from the Coconut Point Mall. Site
includes outparcels and a larger development parcel as well as a residential
portion. CVS and the residential portion (Tagomar) are being reviewed
concurrently. Outparcels will include 2 banks. Residential portion has been
sold to a developer who intends to put multi-family housing there. A
question arose as to how we get national firms to comply with the design
review guidelines and the answer was negotiation and if they want to be part
of the community, they will have to comply. Mr. Guarino indicated he is
being careful about the type of tenants he will bring to the project.
Applicant indicated they intend to make the DRG part of their zoning through
an amendment.
Two buildings consisting of the CVS and retail were shown. These were
previously presented to the EDRC. Roof elements were added to break up the
roof lines. Pedestrian connectivity has been increased per the EDRC
suggestion. Mr. Guarino explained his architectural elevations had just been
received and he himself would make some suggestions to drop the windows and
make the arches real. Committee agreed. CVS has added too many architectural
features and should refer back to the DRG. There is too much going on in
this building and too many details. The site is easily oriented utilizing
towers and a fountain and accessways. A concern was raised as to the color
on CVS – salmon – pink? DRG will have to approve. CVS agreed to return next
month.
Fee: Not Paid
Presentation by: Matt Falconer, Falcon Development
Discussion:
This is a return project. Mr. Falconer was advised previously that he
could not use the name Estero Town Center since this project is not located
in the center of Estero and then he was going to use Estero Commons;
however, there is already an Estero Town Commons. He indicated he does not
brand his projects; however, he has agreed to call the project Estero
Square. Applicant has changed the front elevations to undulate and Committee
was pleased with the change. Landscape plan changed. Building is 315’ wide
and 85’ deep. Walmart is
proposed for next door and there will be connection between the two
projects. This is a condition of their DO. The parking isles in the front
should only have 25% sod. Applicant agreed to bring in more shrubs. The D
buffer along Tamiami Trail could have the groupings of palms vary using a
couple of royals with the sabals so heights vary. Applicant not sure of any
trees being preserved on site. Oaks trees need to be 12-14’, 45 gallon.
Committee suggested more diversity of planting material around building
perimeter. Applicant referred to Section 34.3044D of the LDC regarding the
buffer and easement along US 41. Committee felt the buffer along US 41 had
to be 25’. This DO precedes the Dec. 16, 2005 LDC changes. The US41 Overlay
was approved Dec. 16, 2005. Applicant agreed the 8’ masonry wall would be
painted the same color as the Vines. DOT is controlling the ingress/egress
to the site, although the Applicant is going to request he continue to have
a right turn in after Walmart moves in. Tenants may include StarBucks,
Firehouse Subs, dry cleaner – neighborhood commercial.
New Business:
A discussion was held among the Committee regarding
Steak ‘N Shake in Paradise
Shops. This is a 4400 SF building. Any building less than 5000 SF must have
a pitched roof. Restaurants have been finding it difficult to comply as much
of their equipment sits on the roof. It was decided to review each proposed
project on a case-by-case basis. Applicant could request variances (as did
Burger King) to have the front half pitched. Tom O’Dea and Neal Noethlich
will meet with the County to discuss a possible exception for a partial
pitched roof requirement for restaurant type facilities
Neal Noethlich discussed the awards program. This would be between ECPP/EDRC
representatives and would include a David Graham Development Distinction
Award. Neal requested two representatives from EDRC to sit on the awards
program committee. Bill Prysi and Nancy Cohen were chosen.
Meeting adjourned.
Next Meeting: Next EDRC Meeting will be held on Wednesday, April
12, 2006 5:00 P.M. at The Rapallo ClubHouse
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