Estero Design Review Committee
Meeting Minutes
Public Meeting
November 9, 2005
5:00 P.M.
The Vines Country Club – The Perry Room
Meeting Time: 5:00 P.M.
Members in Attendance: Gordon Lyons, Nancy Cohen, Al
O’Donnell, Jim Wallace, Tom O’Dea
Members Absent: Wayne Robinson, Bill Prysi, Joe McHarris
Minutes By: Terri Melna
Meeting called to order.
Announcement made thanking The Vines for allowing the Estero
Design Review Committee to hold the meetings for the past 3
years in the club.
Approval of the minutes of the October 12th meeting were called
for. A motion to approve the minutes was made, seconded and
carried unanimously. Minutes were approved with no changes.
Fee: Not required
Presentation by: Tom Schneider, Simon Group
Discussion:
DRA letters issued for Phase 1 n August, Phase 2 n October and Phase
3 for Dillards in November. Dillards is in the County now. Phase 1
and 2A have been approved by the County. Phases 2A & 2B have been
presented to the EDRC. Phase 2B is in the County. Letters remain to
be issued for hardscape, landscape. Lighting is not yet complete.
Letter issued for the condos which are part of 2B. The bridges have
not been presented. Dillards is being shown at this meeting. Simon
convinced Dillards to replace a trellis with shed roofs. Foundation
plantings were shown. The north and south elevations are basically
the same. This is 185,000 SF on 2 levels. The outlot to the east of
Dillards may contain an office building or residential. It is 2.3
acres with 3 sides surrounded by water. There will be a 40’ max.
height. Dillards footprint is 94,000 SF. The flat roofline was
discussed. Committee felt the truck well was well hidden. Mr.
Schneider did indicate there may be a possibility of an amendment to
their DRI . The Town Center is allowed 90,000 SF of office and they
may request an amendment to convert to 24,000 SF of medical. This
would be a 2-level medical building with a group of doctors owning
it. Agreed it would be reviewed by the ECPP. Mr. Schneider announced
the BoCC was to vote on changing the name of Sandy Lane to Via
Coconut Point. If lighting and signage are done by December meeting,
Mr. Schneider will return in December, otherwise, it will be the
January meeting. A question was raised as to when the landscaping
and berm would be completed along US 41. Mr. Schneider replied that
they were waiting for the utilities and irrigation to be put in and
that they would also like to this to be completed as soon as
possible. They expect utilities by January.
Fee: Paid
Presentation by: Matt DuBois, Banks Engrg.
Discussion:
Mr. DuBois indicated he was representing US Home. This site is on
the south side of Corkscrew Road between Stoneybrook Golf Drive and
Firehouse Lane. There is a communications tower under construction
on the east side of the site. This DO is for the infrastructure,
roadway and utilities. It is a 21-acre site and has a large
conservation area on the south side. They intend to replat the site
to separate into two parcels which will be sold. When the sites are
sold and ready for development, they will return to the EDRC. The
landscape plan contains a Type D buffer on the east, west and north
sides. The general tree requirement is met by the conservation area.
The committee felt there should be a standard appearance set for the
two parcels. Mr. DuBois indicated he would so indicate to US Home.
The appearance standards should contain landscaping, lighting,
signage so both parcels are consistent. The site has 1800’ frontage
along Corkscrew Road. There is no signage for the current
development order. Agreed to submit the appearance guidelines to
EDRC for review.
Comments/Suggestions:
• Agreed to submit the appearance guidelines to EDRC for review.
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Fee: Paid
Presentation by: Shellie Johnson, Barraco & Assoc. & Steve Rivera
of ABC Fine Wine & Spirits
Discussion:
This is a commercial portion of the
Camargo Trust site. Mr.
Rivera said their projects were unique and this was not like the
store at US 41/Gladiolus. Applicant indicated the color scheme would
be the same as Paradise Shoppes although his rendering showed colors
somewhat different. The corbels will be the same as those on the
Paradise Shoppes. Committee suggested more articulation in roof
lines. The back side of the building will be visible to a
residential project and therefore needs more articulation and
landscaping. Applicant indicated landscaping was approved under the
Paradise Shoppes except for foundation plantings which ABC is
providing. Entrance to building is on the corner of the building.
Committee suggested adding some tall trees to break up the wall.
More plant height is required to add vertical articulation and
detail. Roof elements should be consistent with the rest of Paradise
Shoppes. Applicant indicated this was a single user, but the
committee showed the applicant a rendering of the
Lowes
which appears to be many smaller shops and is more what Estero is
looking for in appearance. The back side should have some sort of
element and perhaps 2 groups of palms surrounding the element.
Agreed to return next month before a DO letter is issued by EDRC.
Comments/Suggestions:
• Roof line articulation
• Adding taller trees to break up the wall
• Element on back side with groupings of palms
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Applicant: Plaza del Sol
No Show
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Applicant: Steak N’ Shake
No Show
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Fee: Not Paid
Presentation by: Theresa Artuso, Hole Montes
Discussion:
This is a return project. Signage is being presented. Monument sign
now is 17’ wide and 12’ high. Added corbels and colors match the
rest of the project. Ms. Artuso showed the color chips and a picture
of the roof tile. Four parking spaces were removed as discussed at
the last meeting and more palms added. The Committee is in full
support of the less than 75’ from ROW in this case. Committee did
indicate they were not supportive of the pastel colors presented at
this meeting and were much more in favor of the colors shown on the
full-size rendering. Ms. Artuso agreed to put this request to the
owner. Suggested to add 5 shade trees to the west island side along
the internal roadway. Agreed.
Comments/Suggestions:
• Change colors from pastel to those shown on the full size
rendering originally.
• Agreed to add 5 shade trees to the west island side along the
internal roadway.
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Fee: Not Paid – to be mailed in
Presentation by: Richard Ibach, Heidt & Associated
Discussion:
This is a private center for the residents at the Reserve. It is ¼
mile north of Estero Parkway and completely hidden from view of any
roadway or other project. Committee had no comments.
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No Show
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No Show. The committee has concerns over two issues on the
continual no show.
1. The Estero Town Center is at the extremity of the Estero. Another
applicant relinquished Estero Town Center on Corkscrew Road for it
was not in the town center and would confuse shoppers as to
location.
2. The committee feels the “landscape architect” listed may not be
licensed as per the LDC.
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Meeting adjourned.
Next Meeting: Next EDRC Meeting will be held on Wednesday,
December 14, 2005, 5:00 P.M. at
The Rapallo ClubHouse |