Estero Design Review Committee
October 12, 2005
The Vines Country Club – The
Members in Attendance:
Gordon Lyons, Joe
McHarris, Al O’Donnell, Jim Wallace, Tom O’Dea
Nancy Cohen, Wayne Robinson, Bill Prysi
By: Terri Melna
Meeting called to order.
made regarding The Vines being a private country club and had a
no-jeans policy. Cell phone usage would be limited to the
small room to panel’s left.
Approval of the minutes of the
September 14th meeting were called for. A motion to approve the
minutes was made, seconded and carried unanimously. Minutes
were approved with no changes.
by: Mark Drew & Mike Cook, AIM Engineering
Awnings consist of
cream and black. Dark bottom with lighter top color on the
building. Roof to be red brick barrel tile. Committee stated
buildings under 5000 SF must have a 30 degree pitched roof.
Discussion regarding special equipment for restaurants – some
committee members felt the pitched roof could be accommodated by
having an attic with the exhaust equipment and air handler
located there, and the condensing unit could be put on the
ground. A chimmey could be installed on the roof for the
exhaust duct. Building is 101’ long and 40’ wide along US 41.
This is highly visible and the roof lines on the front should be
pitched. ECPP has requested no exceptions to the pitched roof
under 5000 SF. As code is now, this pertains to Corkscrew Road
projects only. There is a pending code change to include all of
Estero. Discussion ensued and concensus was that the committee
should be consistent with all previous restaurant projects
presented. EDRC committee wishes to further discuss with ECPP.
This project has a parapet around entire building. It needs
more articulation. Perhaps covered tiled roof over entry. More
architectural details needed. Equipment should be hidden by
parapet. D buffer along 41. Adding additional trees on the
inside of the D buffer was suggested. Needs more details on
pick-up window wall elevation. Lower porte cochere - 18’
high. Needs more undulation on side of building. Add sabal
palms to back elevation island. Consider adding sabal
palms with 20’ trunk – 3/4/5 each side on drive-thru wall
elevation. Has 8 more parking spaces than required – 63
required, has 70. Suggestion to check setback to parking
on spine road – should be greater. Entry feature – small
tower – width not in proportion to the rest of the building.
Recommended to return and agreed to return next month.
Letter will be sent to the County in order not to hold up
Pitched roof at
roof over entry
Undulation on side of building
Add sabals palms to back
to parking on spine road
by: Charles Krebs & Theresa Artuso, Hole
Montes, Owner & Architect also present.
Located at Sandy Lane & Corkscrew Road (north
side). 40,000 SF retail/commercial. Two access points as well as a future
access per zoning. Has bike racks and sidewalks. No color samples. Agreed to
return with samples next month. Blue color is “steel”. Roof tile samples
needed. 4 buildings – two each of two different styles. Bldg. #3 & #4 rear
elevation – covering over doorways. Applicant felt because of buildings’
orientation, covering was not necessary but committee felt it was. Back sides
and ends need more plantings. Have green area with bushes and shrubs. Dry
detention area approved thru zoning – but no undulation. Can applicant do some
plantings to improve. Min. size trees used – in new code, 45 gal., 14’ trees.
Use more sabals and more “tall growing” shrubs. Banks Engrg. will be doing
overall perimeter landscaping. 8’ masonry per zoning. Monument sign – needs to
be wider than tall. Applicant agreed to look at changing. Committee felt
building details looked good. Suggested to add landscaping by monument sign.
Owner stated Bldg. #1 would be their corporate office headquarters and that
landscaping would be nicer than minimum. Code stated 75’ space between ROW and
parking. Project has 6 more parking spaces than required. Agreed to look at
removing 2/4 spaces and plant heavily by monument sign. Committee would then
support less than 75’ to parking. There is no wall along Corkscrew Road as
shown on plans presented. Will bring revised plan to next meeting. Committee
supports removing 4 parking spaces and to increase plantings there. Letter will
be sent to County but applicant agreed to return next month with changes/colors.
Roof tile samples
Undulation on detention area
Increase tree size to meet
requested 12-14’ 45 gal. container
Check parking spaces and
Presentation by: Larry
Scrabia & Kirk Teschke, DVM
This is on
Corkscrew Road adjacent to residential. Not Mediterranean but Old Florida
style. Is it appropriate for this site? Long narrow site. Has utility garage
in same style as main building. Paint chips presented – similar to Bonefish
Grill colors. Detention in rear of site. Used native vegetation. Has wall
between residential use on west side with trees and shrubs. Buffer along rear
side – has residential, not ag. Discussion ensued to as Mediterranean vs. Old
Florida. Committee stressed “great architecture” but not in this location.
Must be Mediterranean as all surrounding projects will be Mediterranean.
Committee stressed Applicant did a good job in designing a 2-story
architecturally pleasing building – but needs to be Mediterranean.
possible, add more Sabal Palms along Corkscrew Rd. Has overhead lights so will
look at. Committee likes driveway entrance. Had parallel parking along wall.
Code requires 20’ off the property line. Committee stressed that they watch
landscaping at parallel parking so passengers could get out of the vehicles.
Possibly use mulch and creeping figs or Jasmine on trellis? South side of
entry to add sabals. Outdoor runs will be buffered – animals in runs will be on
leashes. No chain link fence allowed on buffered areas. Applicant agreed to
look at. Agreed to return next month.
Mediterranean fits this site
Add sabals to south side of
Committee supports reducing from
20’ to 15’ distance for wall from residential property. This will not always be
a residential neighbor.
Check fencing on outdoor run
Next Meeting: Next EDRC
Meeting will be held on Wednesday, November 9, 2005,
5:00 P.M. at The Vines Country Club – The Perry